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		<title>By: Bill Ward</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Ward</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Oct 2009 13:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know, the whole &#039;snark and cheap-shots&#039; thing never occurred to me, I should have covered it. It is so alien to the way I review that I don&#039;t even think about it (especially as, for this site, I don&#039;t even bother reviewing books I don&#039;t recommend), and I really haven&#039;t encountered it all that much from genre reviewers. Needless to say, I agree with you, and bile and abuse is not at all what I had in mind when I urged reviewers to be entertaining.

I share your dislike with reviewers that insist that their pet hates or current humors translate into objective criticism -- however, I don&#039;t feel this invalidates the notion of objective criticism (or objectivity in general, a larger issue). This is why I mention in my post that the line between objectivity and subjectivity is something it almost requires a honed instinct to navigate -- and perhaps it&#039;s also a question of personality and mindset. I believe there are such things as objective standards -- certainly &#039;failures of logic&#039; are among the most cut-and-dried examples of this. Beyond that, many books have their own inherent criteria based on genre expectations or the goals the author creates for himself.

I agree the days when the gatekeepers of high culture passed sentence from on high under the guise of objective standards has past -- but I&#039;d argue that some of their criticism was, of course, another kind of subjectivity. But narrative structure and the demands of storytelling have their own kind of logic, and I do believe it is possible to offer some sort of objective analysis of them that goes beyond gut feelings or pet hates. I don&#039;t necessarily think it is the most important part of criticism, however.

And thanks for spotting the typo -- I always fix them when brought to my attention.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know, the whole &#8217;snark and cheap-shots&#8217; thing never occurred to me, I should have covered it. It is so alien to the way I review that I don&#8217;t even think about it (especially as, for this site, I don&#8217;t even bother reviewing books I don&#8217;t recommend), and I really haven&#8217;t encountered it all that much from genre reviewers. Needless to say, I agree with you, and bile and abuse is not at all what I had in mind when I urged reviewers to be entertaining.</p>
<p>I share your dislike with reviewers that insist that their pet hates or current humors translate into objective criticism &#8212; however, I don&#8217;t feel this invalidates the notion of objective criticism (or objectivity in general, a larger issue). This is why I mention in my post that the line between objectivity and subjectivity is something it almost requires a honed instinct to navigate &#8212; and perhaps it&#8217;s also a question of personality and mindset. I believe there are such things as objective standards &#8212; certainly &#8216;failures of logic&#8217; are among the most cut-and-dried examples of this. Beyond that, many books have their own inherent criteria based on genre expectations or the goals the author creates for himself.</p>
<p>I agree the days when the gatekeepers of high culture passed sentence from on high under the guise of objective standards has past &#8212; but I&#8217;d argue that some of their criticism was, of course, another kind of subjectivity. But narrative structure and the demands of storytelling have their own kind of logic, and I do believe it is possible to offer some sort of objective analysis of them that goes beyond gut feelings or pet hates. I don&#8217;t necessarily think it is the most important part of criticism, however.</p>
<p>And thanks for spotting the typo &#8212; I always fix them when brought to my attention.</p>
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		<title>By: Pete Mitchell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pete Mitchell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Oct 2009 06:14:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Enjoyed the (full) article at Black Gate.  I do wonder if there can be any truly &#039;neutral&#039; sentiments expressed in a book review.  Whether a particular piece of writing is &#039;good&#039; or &#039;bad&#039; is a wildly subjective assessment; one person&#039;s &quot;thrilling, visceral, chaos of war battle scene&quot; is someone else&#039;s &quot;tedious, incoherent smash-&#039;em-up&quot;.  

It seems to me the best a reviewer can do is make their own prejudices clear in describing what did or didn&#039;t work for them in a book, and avoid unfounded generalisations, e.g. &quot;I didn&#039;t like this because ...&quot; rather than &quot;This is utter garbage, penned by a completed idiot.&quot;

My pet hate are reviewers who try to couch their personal like or dislike of a book in purportedly &quot;objective criticism&quot;.  This sort of attitude leads to specious (and laughable) claims like: &quot;Look!  Look!  I hated this and it used the passive voice, so It Must Be Bad!&quot;

Everyone has their opinion, but trying to aggrandise that opinion as the unassailable standard to which all other opinions must conform (i.e. &quot;One review to rule them all!&quot;) or otherwise assert that the reviewer&#039;s opinion is &quot;more important&quot; or &quot;more valid&quot; than anyone else&#039;s strikes me as sheer hubris.

I was also interested by the point you made about good reviews needing to be &#039;entertaining&#039;.  An unremittingly snarky (and in no way &#039;fair&#039; or &#039;balanced&#039;) review about something the reviewer hated enough to ridicule at every possible turn can be highly-entertaining, but I&#039;m not sure how good a &#039;review&#039; it is.

I guess the key, when reviewing, is not to let the cheap shots--or the arrogance--get out of control.

P.S.  I spotted a minor typo in the article: &quot;... Whenever evaluating failures and success in a book it is important to keep foremost in mind the totality of the book itself — if it is successful despite it’s flaws ...&quot;  It should be &quot;its flaws&quot; (no apostrophe), of course.  Just FYI, in case you still can (or want) to fix this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Enjoyed the (full) article at Black Gate.  I do wonder if there can be any truly &#8216;neutral&#8217; sentiments expressed in a book review.  Whether a particular piece of writing is &#8216;good&#8217; or &#8216;bad&#8217; is a wildly subjective assessment; one person&#8217;s &#8220;thrilling, visceral, chaos of war battle scene&#8221; is someone else&#8217;s &#8220;tedious, incoherent smash-&#8217;em-up&#8221;.  </p>
<p>It seems to me the best a reviewer can do is make their own prejudices clear in describing what did or didn&#8217;t work for them in a book, and avoid unfounded generalisations, e.g. &#8220;I didn&#8217;t like this because &#8230;&#8221; rather than &#8220;This is utter garbage, penned by a completed idiot.&#8221;</p>
<p>My pet hate are reviewers who try to couch their personal like or dislike of a book in purportedly &#8220;objective criticism&#8221;.  This sort of attitude leads to specious (and laughable) claims like: &#8220;Look!  Look!  I hated this and it used the passive voice, so It Must Be Bad!&#8221;</p>
<p>Everyone has their opinion, but trying to aggrandise that opinion as the unassailable standard to which all other opinions must conform (i.e. &#8220;One review to rule them all!&#8221;) or otherwise assert that the reviewer&#8217;s opinion is &#8220;more important&#8221; or &#8220;more valid&#8221; than anyone else&#8217;s strikes me as sheer hubris.</p>
<p>I was also interested by the point you made about good reviews needing to be &#8216;entertaining&#8217;.  An unremittingly snarky (and in no way &#8216;fair&#8217; or &#8216;balanced&#8217;) review about something the reviewer hated enough to ridicule at every possible turn can be highly-entertaining, but I&#8217;m not sure how good a &#8216;review&#8217; it is.</p>
<p>I guess the key, when reviewing, is not to let the cheap shots&#8211;or the arrogance&#8211;get out of control.</p>
<p>P.S.  I spotted a minor typo in the article: &#8220;&#8230; Whenever evaluating failures and success in a book it is important to keep foremost in mind the totality of the book itself — if it is successful despite it’s flaws &#8230;&#8221;  It should be &#8220;its flaws&#8221; (no apostrophe), of course.  Just FYI, in case you still can (or want) to fix this.</p>
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